Photoshop recipe for good LTX highlights from Wide menus?

I hate to admit it, but I'm struggling a little bit more than expected making highlights that align correctly with wide motion menus presented in LTX during playback. It's been just long enough since I did this last for me to forget some trick or another in Photoshop. The only reliable way seems to be to use AfterEffects to do the resizing - but that seems like it shouldn't be necessary. I think I'm just missing some obvious step in Photoshop.

Here are some relevant bits of my workflow:

- I design at 960x540 for wide menus.
- I design the highlights at 960x540.
- I resize wide motion menus to 720x486 (D1) for encoding with CCE.
- I crop 1 line from the top, 5 from the bottom with CCE for a final frame size of 720x480.

Thanks in advance for you help...

Michael

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In that case you'll be fine

In that case you'll be fine - Spruce can do 4:3 letterbox, I did one this way last month - it worked fine.

Thanks...

Sorry to make your brain hurt. ;->

Oddly, I just realized that the particular project that caused me to start this thread in the first place is going to be authored in Spruce - which means it will resize the wide hi-lights for me. I don't even think there's a way to give it an LTX overlay.

Michael

Oops !

I design with square pixels too... I used the PAL pixel width when I did my calculations - doh ! Told you this stuff made my brain hurt :-) I've edited the first post with what I hope are the right values, now ! Sorry for the confusion... my excuse is I'm a PAL person :-)

Ian

Found it more intuitive...

...to work with square pixels so for NTSC 4:3 I design at 720x540 and for 16:9 I design at 960x540. This also helps if I'm designing the 16:9 menus that will be presented in P&S on a 4:3 display. Finally, I can sent my clients more accurate comps. ;->

Thanks for the help. I'll try your recipe.

BTW: the AE method, while a bit more labor intensive *does* give me spot on results which are necessary for highlights that must align over graphical elements and text.

Michael

Hi Michael,Do you mean how

Hi Michael,

Do you mean how to scale the highlights for 4:3 letterbox display ? If so, then here is what has worked for me:

- Design at 864x480
- Scale to 720x356 then enlarge canvas size to 720x480 for 4:3 letterbox
- Shift by a pixel or two depending on the authoring app !

Because of your need to specify your crop to 480 manually in CCE, you are designing at a ratio of 1.7777... whereas mine is 1.8. I have to admit this stuff always makes my brain hurt, but we should be able to figure out the right numbers for you.

I always find it helps to do it in stages, imagining that DVDs had square pixels ( if only ! ) In which case you would first need to scale the horizontal dimension from 960 to 640, ie. a factor of 1.5. So, this would mean scaling first to 640x360. But, then it would need scaling horizontally to 720 because of the non-square pixels, so you can just do both in 1 stage. Then you need to enlarge the canvas size vertically to 486, and finally do your crop.

So if I'm right, your 3 stages would be:

- Design at 960x540
- Scale to 720x360, enlarge canvas to 720x486
- Crop as per CCE to 480

But I've been wrong before about this stuff !

Cheers,

Ian

PS. Why not design at 864x486 ? That way your wide designs don't need any vertical scaling which will give you a tiny theoretical increase in quality...!

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